上帝給了人自由意志(God gave Man free will.)——歐美基督徒使用的十大蹩腳論點

上帝給了人自由意志(God gave Man free will.)——歐美基督徒使用的十大蹩腳論點在《歐美基督徒使用的十大蹩腳論點》中排名第6名。我們精選了部分網友觀點： ...

上帝給了人自由意志歐美基督徒使用的十大蹩腳論點在歐美基督徒使用的十大蹩腳論點中排名第6名。

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我們精選了部分網友觀點：

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如果上帝是無所不知的，那就意味著他知道未來。如果他知道未來，那就意味著未來會按照他所知道的方式發展。如果未來不應該按照他所知道的方式發展，那就意味著他不知道未來。如果每件事的發展都是因為他的無所不知，那也意味著每件事的發生都是必要的。如果每件事的發生都是必要的意思是沒有自由意志。你不能改變必然會發生的事情。如果沒有自由意志，那就意味著人們對自己的罪惡和行為不負責任。如果上帝因為人們的罪惡而懲罰他們，那么他們就不負責任，那就意味著上帝是不道德的。結論是：或者上帝是無所不知的，而且同樣是不道德的，或者他不是不道德的，但在這種情況下，他不是無所不知的。邏輯上說，如果上帝把自由意志給人，他就不可能是無所不知的和善的。從邏輯上講，這意味著沒有上帝，因此上帝給予的自由意志

If god is omniscient it means he knows the future. If he knows the future it means that the future will develop the way he knew. If the future shouldn't develop that way it means he didn't knew the future. If everything develops because his omniscient it also means that everything happens necessary. And if everything happens necessary it means that there is no free will. You can't change something that will happen necesserary. And if there's no free will it means that people aren't responsable for their sins and acts. If god punish people because of their sins from wich they are not responsable it would mean that god is immoral. The conclusion is : Or god is omniscient and also immoral or he is not immoral but in that case he isn't omniscient. Logic says that god can't be omniscient and good if he gave free will to men. In more logical terms it means that there is no god and for that matter a god-given free will.

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如果你說上帝給我們有限的自由意志，這將不再是自由的，就像你不能選擇自己的物種，或者你不能像你在評論中寫的那樣像超人一樣飛翔，可以說他是在自然條件下給予自由意志的，但自然并不一定是上帝賜予的東西，你可以，我相信有一天我們會用科學的證據來解釋自然

If you say that god give us limited free will ( this wouldn't be free anymore ) like you can't choose your species or you can't fly like superman ( like you wrote in your comment ), it would be saying that he gave free will with the conditions of nature. But nature is not neccerssally a god giving thing. You can ( and I'm sure we will one day ) explain nature by science proof.

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所以我們有自由意志去做我們想做的事，但是上帝有一個計劃，知道我們在生活中要做什么，這對你來說不是有點矛盾嗎？

So we have free will to do whatever we want yet God has a plan and knows exactly what we're gonna do in our lives, doesn't that seem a little contradicting to you?

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看來他不小心讓他們太聰明了，因為很多人都不相信他！

Looks like he accidently made them TOO intelligent then, cause so many don't believe in him!

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教堂把它拿走了-韋斯托菲奧

And the church took it away - westofohio

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女人呢？-卡索姆貓

What about women? - CatsOMG

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但他有個計劃。有點條件

But he has a plan. Bit condridicting